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DTC P1658: ETCS Control Relay ON Malfunction

NOTE:
  • Before you troubleshoot, record all freeze data and any on-board snapshot, and review GENERAL TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION .
  • Information marked with an asterisk (*1) applies to '09-10 models and '11-12 models (M/T).
  • Information marked with an asterisk (*2) applies to '11-12 models (A/T).
  1. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
  2. Do the ETCS TEST in the INSPECTION MENU with the HDS.

    Is the RELAY circuit OK? 

    YES:  Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the ETCS control relay and the ECM/PCM.

    NO:  Go to step  3.

  3. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  4. Open the fuse access panel (A), then remove the ETCS control relay (B) from the under-dash fuse/relay box.
    Fig 1: Identifying Fuse Access Panel & ETCS Control Relay
    G05953037Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.
  5. Test the ETCS control relay (see POWER RELAY TEST ).

    Is the ETCS control relay OK? 

    YES:  Go to step  6.

    NO:  Replace the ETCS control relay, then go to step  13.

  6. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.
  7. Disconnect ECM/PCM connector A (49P).
  8. Check for continuity between ECM/PCM connector terminal A21 and body ground.
    Fig 2: Checking Continuity Between ECM/PCM Connector Terminal A21 & Body Ground
    G05953038Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there continuity? 

    YES:  Repair short in the wire between the ECM/PCM (A21) and the ETCS control relay, then go to step  13.

    NO:  Go to step  9.

  9. Disconnect ECM/PCM connector C (49P).
  10. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
  11. Measure the voltage between ECM/PCM connector terminal C1 and body ground.
    Fig 3: Checking Voltage Between ECM/PCM Connector Terminal C1 & Body Ground
    G05953039Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there battery voltage? 

    YES:  Repair short to power in the wire between the ECM/PCM (CD and the ETCS control relay, then go to step  12.

    NO:  Go to step  18.

  12. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  13. Reconnect all connectors.
  14. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
  15. Reset the ECM/PCM with the HDS.
  16. Do ECM/PCM IDLE LEARN PROCEDURE .
  17. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

    Is DTC P1658 indicated? 

    YES:  Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the ETCS control relay and the ECM/PCM, then go to step  1.

    NO:  Troubleshooting is complete. If any other Pending or Confirmed DTCs are indicated, go to the indicated DTC's troubleshooting.

  18. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  19. Reconnect all connectors.
  20. Update the ECM/PCM if it does not have the latest software (see ECM/PCM UPDATE ), or substitute a known-good ECM/PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE ECM/PCM ).
  21. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

    Is DTC P1658 indicated? 

    YES:  Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the ETCS control relay and the ECM/PCM. If the ECM/PCM was updated, substitute a known-good ECM/PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE ECM/PCM ), then recheck. If the ECM/PCM was substituted, go to step  1.

    NO:  If the ECM/PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If the ECM/PCM was substituted, replace the original ECM/PCM (see ECM/PCM REPLACEMENT ). If any other Pending or Confirmed DTCs are indicated, go to the indicated DTC's troubleshooting.

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