DTC P2176: Throttle Actuator Control System Idle Position Not Learned
- Before you troubleshoot, record all freeze data and any on-board snapshot, and review GENERAL TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION .
- If DTC P2135 is stored at the same time as DTC P2176, troubleshoot DTC P2135 first, then recheck for DTC P2176.
- Information marked with an asterisk (*1) applies to '09-10 models and '11-12 models (M/T).
- Information marked with an asterisk (*2) applies to '11-12 models (A/T).
- Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
- Clear the DTC with the HDS.
- Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
- Turn the ignition switch to ON (II), and wait 10 seconds.
- Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.
Is DTC P2176 indicated?
YES: Go to step 6.
NO: Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the throttle body and the ECM/PCM, then clean the throttle body (see THROTTLE BODY CLEANING ).
- Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
- Remove the air cleaner (see AIR CLEANER REMOVAL/INSTALLATION ).
- Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
- Clear the DTC with the HDS.
- Visually check the throttle valve operation while performing the ETCS TEST in the INSPECTION MENU with the HDS.
Does the throttle valve move to its fully closed position?
YES: Go to step 11.
NO: Go to step 12.
- Check for sludge or carbon on the throttle valve.
Is there sludge or carbon on the throttle valve?
YES: Clean the throttle body (see THROTTLE BODY CLEANING ), then go to step 21.
NO: Go to step 18.
- Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
- Disconnect the throttle body 6P connector.
- Jump the SCS line with the HDS.
- Disconnect ECM/PCM connector C (49P).
- Connect throttle body 6P connector terminals No. 5 and No. 6 with a jumper wire.
- Check for continuity between ECM/PCM connector terminals C3 and C4.
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Is there continuity?
YES: Go to step 27.
NO: Repair open in the wires between the throttle body and the ECM/PCM (C3, C4), then go to step 20.
- Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
- Replace the throttle body (see THROTTLE BODY REMOVAL/INSTALLATION ).
- Reconnect all connectors.
- Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
- Reset the ECM/PCM with the HDS.
- Do ECM/PCM IDLE LEARN PROCEDURE .
- Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
- Turn the ignition switch to ON (II), and wait 10 seconds.
- Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.
Is DTC P2176 indicated?
YES: Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the throttle body and the ECM/PCM, then clean the throttle body (see THROTTLE BODY CLEANING ), and go to step 1.
NO: Troubleshooting is complete. If any other Pending or Confirmed DTCs are indicated, go to the indicated DTC's troubleshooting.
- Reconnect all connectors.
- Update the ECM/PCM if it does not have the latest software (see ECM/PCM UPDATE ), or substitute a known-good ECM/PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE ECM/PCM ).
- Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
- Turn the ignition switch to ON (II), and wait 10 seconds.
- Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.
Is DTC P2176 indicated?
YES: Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the throttle body and the ECM/PCM. If the ECM/PCM was updated, substitute a known-good ECM/PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE ECM/PCM ), then recheck. If the ECM/PCM was substituted, go to step 1.
NO: If the ECM/PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If the ECM/PCM was substituted, replace the original ECM/PCM (see ECM/PCM REPLACEMENT ). If any other Pending or Confirmed DTCs are indicated, go to the indicated DTC's troubleshooting.