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DTC P1361: CMP Sensor B Intermittent Interruption (2002-03 Models), DTC P1362: CMP Sensor B No Signal (2002-03 Models), DTC P0365: CMP Sensor B No Signal (2004-05 Models), DTC P0369: CMP Sensor B Intermittent Interruption (2004-05 Models)

NOTE:

Information marked with an asterisk (*) applies to '02-03 models.

Information marked with an asterisk (**) applies to '04-05 models.

  1. Reset the ECM (see HOW TO RESET THE ECM ).
  2. Start the engine.

    Is DTC P1361* (P0365)** and/or P1362* (P0369)/** indicated? 

    YES:  Go to step 3.

    NO:  Intermittent failure, system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the CMP sensor B (TDC sensor)and at the ECM.

  3. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
  4. Disconnect CMP sensor B 3P connector.
  5. Turn the ignition switch ON (II)
  6. Measure voltage between CMP sensor B 3P connector terminal No.3 and body ground.
    Fig 1: Measuring Voltage Between CMP Sensor B 3P Connector Terminal No.3 And Body Ground
    G01399422Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there battery voltage? 

    YES:  Go to step 7.

    NO:  Repair open in the wire between PGM-FI main relay 1 and the CMP sensor B.

  7. Measure voltage between CMP sensor B 3P connector terminal No.1 and body ground.
    Fig 2: Measuring Voltage Between CMP Sensor B 3P Connector Terminal No.1 And Body Ground
    G01399423Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there about 5 V? 

    YES:  Go to step 8.

    NO:  Go to step  10.

  8. Measure voltage between CMP sensor B 3P connector terminals No.2 and No.3
    Fig 3: Measure Voltage Between CMP Sensor B 3P Connector Terminals No.2 And No.3
    G01399424Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there battery voltage? 

    YES:  Go to step 9.

    NO:  Repair open in the wire between CMP sensor B and G101.

  9. Substitute a known-good CMP sensor B (see ECT SENSOR REPLACEMENT ) and recheck.

    Is DTC P1361* (P0365)** and/or P1362* (P0369)** indicated? 

    YES:  Update the ECM if it does not have the latest software, or substitute a known-good ECM, then recheck (see ECM UPDATING AND SUBSTITUTION FOR TESTING ). If the symptom/indication goes away with a known-good ECM, replace the original ECM.

    NO:  Replace the original CMP sensor B (see ECT SENSOR REPLACEMENT ).

  10. Measure voltage between ECM connector terminal A26 and body ground.
    Fig 4: Measuring Voltage Between ECM Connector Terminal A26 And Body Ground
    G01399425Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there about 5 V? 

    YES:  Repair open in the wire between the ECM (A26) and CMP sensor B.

    NO:  Go to step 11.

  11. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
  12. Disconnect ECM connector A (31P)
  13. Check for continuity between ECM connector terminal A26 and body ground.
    Fig 5: Checking For Continuity Between ECM Connector Terminal A26 And Body Ground
    G01399426Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there continuity? 

    YES:  Repair short in the wire between the ECM (A26) and the CMP sensor B.

    NO:  Update the ECM if it does not have the latest software, or substitute a known-good ECM, then recheck (see ECM UPDATING AND SUBSTITUTION FOR TESTING ). If the symptom/indication goes away with a known-good ECM, replace the original ECM.